yea i was the one who got the list of everyones usernames and passwords off the computer at school and got caught. lots of people think i'm a hacker and its funny because i'm not. anyone could have found it but i did. tons of people are being suspended now and i know exactly whos fault that is. you know its not my fault because i got the worst punishment out of everyone. so now i'm home for at least 5 days (waiting for livengood to pass his final judgement) and i'm back at messing around with computers. is this smart of me to do? should i just stay away from computers for awhile? well in the mean time does anyone want to buy some computer parts? i'll be here till monday. ha.
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08:01:01 PM
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the funny thing is that in the real world, you'd be tried for identity theft, and probably end up doing jail time for initiating the comprimise of the identities of almost 2,500 people.
but this is just high school. its all a game, right?
wait, what are we talking about?
plus who cares about usernames and passwords of kids at school...i dont save anything to that username
It's not about what you save to the username. It's what the other person can illegally do using your account.
Also, from what I understand of the situation, the OP really isn't to blame for anything - the list was on the server and anyone could have found if they were just messing around. Identity theft would only be if the OP signed onto someone else's account using that info.
On that note, compromising people's identities isn't the issue either. Everyone knows each other's screen names - they're all made using the same formula of last name plus the first intial. The passwords aren't hard to find/figure out. It's just the last 5 digits of your NCWise number. Which are used by teachers to post grades, they're on the attendence sheets, we use them as Blackboard logins.
Enloe "security" isn't as hard to break as the administrators like to think it is.
Well... anon1, this isn't exactly identity theft as it is in the "real world". Real world identity theft involves grabbing someone's social security number, or their credit card; thus, possessing the power to completely destroy the financial stability, or at the very least, reputability, of the true individual. Anyhow... this all sounds rather silly, and perhaps the administration needs to get a sense of humor. Then again, that's somewhat antithetical to the idea of authority. Particularly at Enloe.
I know seven people that won't be here until monday because of the administration's idiocy. It wasn't that hard to find, the server isn't invincible (or tricky to figure out, it's hilarious what people save on the west-working shared file), and it wasn't their fault. They looked at it and BAM! Their asses got OSSed. I think this is almost similar to pocket tanks. The administration needs to suck it up and realize that our students aren't stupid, and we're just having fun.
God I fucking hate Livengood for this.
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Anonymous said...
I know at least 2 guys who have the lists on their iPods, and I could easily get it from them
But I dont want to get busted like *** ***** today
5/02/2006 08:50:27 PM
An opinion article in the Eagle's Eye described the state of the Enloe network and offered pointers for future protection.
http://enloehs.wcpss.net/eagleseye/april.pdf
Quite frankly, people, it doesn't matter how easy the stuff was to access. Just because you see candy lying around in a store doesn't mean you can take it, and the same applies to computers on the network. I'm not saying that the network security doesn't need work, but I seriously doubt that the document was just posted in plain view. You did have to look for it, and you did open it. And possession is 9/10 of the law.
the really funny thing is that according to enloe's technology policy (available on the enloe website) people cannot get suspended for accessing these lists. the access was authorized for everyone on the server/network, so nothing illegal happened unless you were an idiot and did something with the lists (ie, downloaded them to a flash disk or sent them in an email). this will be my argument in front of livengood when i get back to school, if i find that i'm also suspended. if that occurs, i will be majorly pissed. as someone who has managed to go SIX YEARS without racking even an ASD (even after the whole shebang last year, believe it or not) getting suspended over something i didn't really even take part in (besides being in the same room with people who were) would be unaccpetable.
^ did you access the information?
even if you didn't directly access (or duplicate) it, first-hand knowledge of illegal activity is still a punishable offense, if you don't act responsibly and report it. the public judicial system calls it being an 'accessory to a crime'. i'll be suprised if your complaint gets you anyplace, unless you indeed had absolutely no knowledge it was occuring.
either way, it sounds like you've gotten lucky so far. don't be such a worrywart.
by the way, its quite funny to hear you talk about unacceptable consequences when you're complaining about actually getting caught or implicated in something. good luck later in life ;)
actually, i did know what was going on, and i did report it to someone who i thought might be able to correct the problem. how's that for knowledge of illegal activity?
everyone had their own account so that the administration could feel happy that they could track everyone's moves and truly enforce security by taking your account away for doing disgusting things like playing pocket tanks. By finding this list (which is probably an administrators fault for leaving it publicly accessible) you have no only destroyed their symbol of security, but have caused a hellish nightmare for them as they have to give every account a new password and distribute all those passwords to all the kids.
I hate the kids who got suspended cause one of their friends emailed it to them and they just thought "hmm, what's this?" clicked on it, and gave it no mind. That sucks, but for the kid who found it and pulls the HEY GUYS LOOK AT THIS...
I just have to say that was pretty dumb.
to anonymous directly before pchis:
then what are you worrying about? if you turned in your fellow students, im sure the administration would love you in this case.
why do you fear that they are pursuing you?
if there's something awry, just talk to the person to whom you reported the problem. they'll be able to help you out.
also, i agree with pchis. the kids who abused network resources and emailed it quietly to one another shouldn't be punished. it's just not cool.
the kids who called out to their friends in the computer labs though, serves them right :D
oh my bad sith, completely forgot about the rules
One of my friends was called to the office today. He was only sent an email; I think he actually deleted it. He's an excellent student who should not be punished just because he didn't go running to the nearest administrator the second he saw a weird message sitting in his inbox. This whole thing seems very 1984 to me.
Free Moose!
Free Moose, indeed!
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