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Tuesday, March 14, 2006
I cannot accept a god who would damn half the world
Anonymous 11:09:10 PM
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Anonymous
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or you might accept that the population needs to be cut in half and thats why a God would damn half the world- to make it better for the rest of us
Seis... I think that it is good to have religious debates because it allows you to learn and understand (well you don't have to truly understand it but at least see) the reasoning behind different practices of religion because then people wouldn't be so damn ignorant about each other. People have a very strong sense of identity and it has started many conflicts. If we can just come to accept each others beliefs and recognize that we can't kill everyone or change the opinions of people who do not believe the exact same things as we do a whole shit load of genocide, death, war, and conflict would be eliminated.
I believe in a great cosmic balence. I belive that if you do good things it will (eventually) come back to you, though not in the way you might think. I believe that if you do bad things, well, you reap what you sow.
I also believe in math. Creationism and evolution both be damned. Math will never fail me (even if I fail it, curse you pre-calc!).
oh it's not that i don't think it's important for people for people to understand and accept each other's religions. that would definitely solve a lot of problems in the world. it's just that at some point, especially when there have been so many debates alreadly, that you have to let things be. each person has their own idea about the truth of the universe and debate will rarely change that. plus, i think i've already put in my two cents on religion, so i don't really have much to add to this particular debate. feel free to do what you like though!
and pchis, your comment is confusing. are you saying we should put aside our different religious opinions and all search for the truth of the universe? because only mostly agnostics will stand for that. or maybe just all accepting one religion? because not many will like that either. in terms of religion, agreeing to disagree is generally the only solution (besides converting or something). it's only when that solution isn't really observed that there are problems.
crap, now you've all started me debating again.
and i actually don't think "already" is actually a word is it? isn't it supposeed to always be "all ready"?
hah no it's just different thought processes I'm filtering through as my life goes on. I went through a phase where I truly believed in the teachings of unitarian universalism, and that open-mindedness was a good strategy. Then I started to realize that almost no one at my church was truly open-minded, and that's one part.
The complete other side is my dad who's entire side of the family has a very bad opinion of the beliefs the republican party holds(mainly him and his mother and father though), and he loves to argue his views on things, and at one family gathering he was having a political discussion with my cousin's boyfriend (who is a fairly "conservative guy"), which ended in my cousin's bf being getting a little riled up and then saying "well I respect your opinion, but I disagree with you." My dad's response went something like "I don't respect yours because you're wrong."
He meant it as sort of a half joke, but you have to think of what would happen if everyone was open minded. Ghand and MLK (to name the cliches) were definitely NOT open minded people (when did MLK think about the white supremesist's feelings?).
So my personal belief is that very slow changes to the ways we live our lives are generally the best, but I bleieve that requires a sort of understanding of the other side but there has to be some sort of contempt or disdain for it or else we will never change things for how we see them to be better.
Then again I could have just been being argumentative...your choice really.
13 comments:
or you might accept that the population needs to be cut in half and thats why a God would damn half the world- to make it better for the rest of us
be dead, dont trouble yourself with the worries of life. THINK OF ALL THE PROBLEMS YOU SOLVE! and then you can find out if youre damned or not! :)
if you are referring to christianity, i am i person with a very strong faith in christianity.
and i absolutely DO NOT believe that half the world is damned. it all depends on individual interpretation of scriptures&teachings.
so no. i don't think half the world is damned. and neither do most christians.
aw, come on, we've had so many religious debates already. no point in beating a dead horse.
...I can't, either... especially when one member of that half of the world is my entire world...
yeah, that carcass is a bloody pulp
Anonymous 5, welcome to universalism.
Not believing in free will, believing in hell would make me somewhat of a Calvinist I suppose.
Thank God I doubt his existence, at least as the many worldly religions believe it, or death would be a very scary prospect.
Seis...
I think that it is good to have religious debates because it allows you to learn and understand (well you don't have to truly understand it but at least see) the reasoning behind different practices of religion because then people wouldn't be so damn ignorant about each other. People have a very strong sense of identity and it has started many conflicts. If we can just come to accept each others beliefs and recognize that we can't kill everyone or change the opinions of people who do not believe the exact same things as we do a whole shit load of genocide, death, war, and conflict would be eliminated.
Religious debates are fun!
I believe in a great cosmic balence. I belive that if you do good things it will (eventually) come back to you, though not in the way you might think. I believe that if you do bad things, well, you reap what you sow.
I also believe in math. Creationism and evolution both be damned. Math will never fail me (even if I fail it, curse you pre-calc!).
oh the keeper, there comes a time when we have to stop agreeing to disagree and start hammering out a solution.
oh it's not that i don't think it's important for people for people to understand and accept each other's religions. that would definitely solve a lot of problems in the world. it's just that at some point, especially when there have been so many debates alreadly, that you have to let things be. each person has their own idea about the truth of the universe and debate will rarely change that. plus, i think i've already put in my two cents on religion, so i don't really have much to add to this particular debate. feel free to do what you like though!
and pchis, your comment is confusing. are you saying we should put aside our different religious opinions and all search for the truth of the universe? because only mostly agnostics will stand for that. or maybe just all accepting one religion? because not many will like that either. in terms of religion, agreeing to disagree is generally the only solution (besides converting or something). it's only when that solution isn't really observed that there are problems.
crap, now you've all started me debating again.
and i actually don't think "already" is actually a word is it? isn't it supposeed to always be "all ready"?
hah no it's just different thought processes I'm filtering through as my life goes on. I went through a phase where I truly believed in the teachings of unitarian universalism, and that open-mindedness was a good strategy. Then I started to realize that almost no one at my church was truly open-minded, and that's one part.
The complete other side is my dad who's entire side of the family has a very bad opinion of the beliefs the republican party holds(mainly him and his mother and father though), and he loves to argue his views on things, and at one family gathering he was having a political discussion with my cousin's boyfriend (who is a fairly "conservative guy"), which ended in my cousin's bf being getting a little riled up and then saying "well I respect your opinion, but I disagree with you." My dad's response went something like "I don't respect yours because you're wrong."
He meant it as sort of a half joke, but you have to think of what would happen if everyone was open minded. Ghand and MLK (to name the cliches) were definitely NOT open minded people (when did MLK think about the white supremesist's feelings?).
So my personal belief is that very slow changes to the ways we live our lives are generally the best, but I bleieve that requires a sort of understanding of the other side but there has to be some sort of contempt or disdain for it or else we will never change things for how we see them to be better.
Then again I could have just been being argumentative...your choice really.
^Now we know where he gets it from.
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