I'm joining the army and I've never been more at peace with any decision in my life!
Anonymous
08:59:00 AM
5/15/2009
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I'm joining the army and I've never been more at peace with any decision in my life!
Anonymous
08:59:00 AM
5/15/2009
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21 comments:
I'm proud of you.
I'm glad there's an outlet for meatheads like you to be treated like the sheep/prole that you are, fight and die while the more intelligent ones of us quietly enjoy our lives.
Damn idiot, throwing your life away like that.
There are three other service branches you could've joined that involve less of a cannon-fodder attitude toward enlisted men. Any of the three is still an idiotic move, but none more than the Army.
Um... I just respect your decision, as it is your own life and everything. Seems a little harsh, anon2
Although it is selfless of you to risk your life for others, I agree with anon2 in the fact that the Army is for people who have nothing else going for them. I have friends in the Navy and in the Air Force and none of them shows respect for people in the army.
Anon 2,
Be glad there are people out there like the OP, who ARE willing to fight and die so the more ignorant folk such as yourself have the ability to hold such misguided and ill informed opinions. Without them the consequence for your freedoms would be death, with them you only embarrass yourself as you just did.
Enlisted soldiers in today's army are highly skilled professionals who are experts at their jobs. Anyone who insists that they are 'cannon fodder' or have 'nothing going for them' is just plain wrong, and has clearly never had any experience in or working with members of the Army or any of the other branches.
Joining the military at any time demonstrates a willingness to take responsibility and play a part in earning the freedoms that our society provides us. It indicates a maturity and morality that few people EVER reach ( ESP, Anon 2,3 and 4). Members of the military have decided that the good of the group is worth putting their lives at risk. Humans who do that are what keeps humanity going.
In conclusion, all of you spineless, limp-dicked pacifists who think that we don't have to kill bad people should go back to playing with yourselves. Then thank god or whatever you pray to that there are men and women who are willing to put their lives on the line to protect this nation and your freedoms.
Pretty words from someone who seems to be drinking too much of the kool-aid. Maybe you're another enlisted man? Maybe you're a kid who went to officer school and thinks that's how the real military is?
There are three types of people in the country with regard to the military:
- Those who are selfless enough to give their life/livelihood for "the betterment of the group".
- Those who attract/brainwash proles into joining the military for "the betterment of the group" and task said proles to do the bidding of their political and economic allies.
- Those who refuse to take part in such nonsense, some of whom belittle the idiocy of the low-class proles from the first group.
So what you're saying is that the *third* group is the one that deserves contempt in this scenario?
A large part of the "group" you claim soldiers are providing benefit for hold quite a bit of disdain and contempt for these same soldiers and the bureaucrats they work for. Is this group worth giving your life for? If so, I can't see why.
I would think that someone who has been reading his orwell would be more aware of something else that he said "People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf."
This 'third group' that abjures itself of 'this nonsense' is embracing a naivety that is as dangerous as it is embarrassing. It is a good thing there are so few people who are that stupid. Without the ability and the will to kill and destroy this nation would not exist.
Is it worth it to die for a part of the society that thinks soldiers are worthless?
Yes, even if it is just to protect those ignorant and naive people from learning that outside the clean and tidy borders of the western world, power is still derived from the barrel of a gun.
Fortunately for those in uniform and our society, those people who think the military is nonsense remain a small, stupid and over-educated minority. If only they actually had any beliefs they thought were worth fighting and dieing for....
Oh wait, then they'd be in the military!!!
Now is not the time to be enlisted in the military. I have seen so many documentaries where soldiers are depressed and angry because they are fighting a war against people who don't want our 'help'. I have no qualms with people wanting to serve their country, it's their life.
If you are joining the army in support of the war we are currently fighting, you are an idiot- Flat out. I don't want to be so blunt, but that's how things are. You will feel like my dad felt when he returned from the Vietnam war, empty.
Pray tell, what beliefs are you fighting for that will take you to nations like Afghanistan and Iraq (among so many others where we have intrusive and unwelcome military posts)?
It's not American freedoms you're righting for -- it's a well-established fact that neither Afghanistan nor Iraq (nor many other countries) posed an imminent danger to American life or culture. And yet, American military forces were used to engage in wars that killed thousands of people, overthrew local governments, and completely destroyed local cultures.
It is also well-established by historians and modern analysts that the American military has been used time after time to fulfill agendas of various American business and political leaders that often as not run counter to the very "ideals" purported to be held by our society (see Iraq (both current and past), various "Banana Republics", Cuba, etc).
Piss on me for not agreeing with your beliefs. I'll thank you to be the tool of American business and politics while I go about my life. Maybe one day I'll buy a few Senators and get my friends together to encourage yet another "conflict" for you and the other proles to run off to fight in. Hey, in the name of American Interests, it'd give you something new to believe in, right?
Yeah, you sit tidy now, military brats. Wait till it's your turn to have your arm amputated or watch your buddy dying by the side of a road with his face blown off. Then tell me what you believe in.
There is a city block in Manhattan and 6 thousand dead people that would counter the 'well established fact' that Afghanistan posed no threat to the United States. Iraq is undoubtedly a more questionable war based on a dubious foreign policy plan.
(As a side note, I personally don't mind destroying and displacing a local 'culture' (read religious dictatorship) that believes in flogging women for turning down a marriage proposal, or throwing acid in the faces of girls going to school)
This an internet forum, so bringing any facts into an argument is completely useless, and everyone involved is most likely a pimply teenager only passing on worn out beliefs and 'facts' that they heard their parents sharing at the dinner table. So, the United States has undoubtedly made foreign policy mistakes as a result of different ideas about the best course of international relations. What is equally true however, is that without the military and without people willing to commit violent acts this country would not exist.
You may deplore the Bay of Pigs, Panama, Haiti, Grenada, the Philippines, Somalia, Vietnam, Iraq and Afghanistan, but we can no longer live in isolation and leave the world alone, (reference 9/11 and 12/7) otherwise, Americans die. So while some of our military ventures may appear and some may actually be misguided, there general purpose is to prevent YOUR blood from being shed, in YOUR home, while you go about YOUR business.
But rest assured, THERE are people out there who want to kill YOU and destroy America. The only thing protecting your teenage skin is a bunch of 'proles' with guns and fancy uniforms.
"Wait till it's your arm being amputated, or your buddy's face being blown off"- You've got to remember that people in the military aren't limp-dick pieces of shit like yourself. They actually have convictions and dedication. They've had to look at the bloody mass where there friends face used to be, and wash his blood out of the humvee. You know what though? They keep going.
Let us assume that I'm not a limp-dicked pimply teenager like Anon 2. Let's assume that I'm one of those stupid proles with a back bone. Even when I'm wiping my buddies brain matter off of my armored vest, or when i'm being evacuated back to the states missing an arm or a leg, I'll still believe in what I've done, and what my buddies did. Even if it's just to protect the freedom of Anon 2 here, who's probably just using his freedom to watch porn on his mom's computer and when his right hand gets tired, say stupid shit about proles and how the man's keeping everyone down.
You know what I (or my assumed prole-self) believe in. How about you?
Let me tell you.
You don't believe in anything. There is nothing in your life that you believe in strongly enough to put your life on the line. I pity you. Get off your computer, and go find a cause and some convictions that you're willing to fight and die for, (it doesn't have to be the military) and do your time. Otherwise as you 'go about your life', it will pass by, and lying in your death-bed, you'll wonder where it all went and what you did with it.
There is a city block in Manhattan and 6 thousand dead people that would counter the 'well established fact' that Afghanistan posed no threat to the United States. Iraq is undoubtedly a more questionable war based on a dubious foreign policy plan.
(As a side note, I personally don't mind destroying and displacing a local 'culture' (read religious dictatorship) that believes in flogging women for turning down a marriage proposal, or throwing acid in the faces of girls going to school)
This an internet forum, so bringing any facts into an argument is completely useless, and everyone involved is most likely a pimply teenager only passing on worn out beliefs and 'facts' that they heard their parents sharing at the dinner table. So, the United States has undoubtedly made foreign policy mistakes as a result of different ideas about the best course of international relations. What is equally true however, is that without the military and without people willing to commit violent acts this country would not exist.
You may deplore the Bay of Pigs, Panama, Haiti, Grenada, the Philippines, Somalia, Vietnam, Iraq and Afghanistan, but we can no longer live in isolation and leave the world alone, (reference 9/11 and 12/7) otherwise, Americans die. So while some of our military ventures may appear and some may actually be misguided, there general purpose is to prevent YOUR blood from being shed, in YOUR home, while you go about YOUR business.
But rest assured, THERE are people out there who want to kill YOU and destroy America. The only thing protecting your teenage skin is a bunch of 'proles' with guns and fancy uniforms.
"Wait till it's your arm being amputated, or your buddy's face being blown off"- You've got to remember that people in the military aren't limp-dick pieces of shit like yourself. They actually have convictions and dedication. They've had to look at the bloody mass where there friends face used to be, and wash his blood out of the humvee. You know what though? They keep going.
Let us assume that I'm not a limp-dicked pimply teenager like Anon 2. Let's assume that I'm one of those stupid proles with a back bone. Even when I'm wiping my buddies brain matter off of my armored vest, or when i'm being evacuated back to the states missing an arm or a leg, I'll still believe in what I've done, and what my buddies did. Even if it's just to protect the freedom of Anon 2 here, who's probably just using his freedom to watch porn on his mom's computer and when his right hand gets tired, say stupid shit about proles and how the man's keeping everyone down.
You know what I (or my assumed prole-self) believe in. How about you?
Let me tell you.
You don't believe in anything. There is nothing in your life that you believe in strongly enough to put your life on the line. I pity you. Get off your computer, and go find a cause and some convictions that you're willing to fight and die for, (it doesn't have to be the military) and do your time. Otherwise as you 'go about your life', it will pass by, and lying in your death-bed, you'll wonder where it all went and what you did with it.
Double post FTW!
Now that the opinions have flown, let me tell you why I'm joining:
It hasn't got anything to do with the bigger picture.
My friends and family will be the first to tell you I'm a tree-huggin' hippie and a pacifist. I don't condone war, though at times I do believe it is necessary.
I want to save lives. That's what I've always wanted to do with my life, and that's what I am determined to do. And I want to save lives everywhere. College was just gonna take too damn long. I graduated high school with a 4.5, and left my first year of college with a 3.2, so I totally had things going for me there (ie. med school, hopefully.) But then I'd be stuck in the U.S. not being exposed to other kinds of suffering. Somewhere, there are girls like me who are in love with their boyfriends like I am, boyfriends who are brave enough to serve a government that has given them so much and has made their life what is was. And someday, one of they're legs might get blown off. And because of a lack of medics, they might bleed out from what could very well have been treatable. And that girlfriend will be heartbroken, and his mother and father will be heartbroken, and I could have been there saving him.
It's not about helping the war, it's not about not having anything else to do in my life. It's the smaller picture.
With that said, does anybody have any suggestions (positive, please!) on how to comfort my very worried boyfriend?
And by the way, thank you Anon 1. Your support means a lot to me.
Make sure he knows your reasons for going, and the terms of your enlistment. Be sincere. Don't shield him or yourself from the danger of what you're doing. If he loves you, these things will comfort and sustain him.
I disagree with your method of fulfilling your desires and exercising your talents, but I applaud your decision to act on those desires instead of quietly following a typical path that would lead to disappointment.
OP, you could have joined the peace corps and fulfilled your dreams. I understand your need to comfort your boyfriend and that is really hard. One thing to stay away from is 'I will wait for you'. I have a close friend who left for war for 2 years and they agreed to not make a commitment to the future.
They continuously wrote to each other as best friends and when he came back from war, they were so in love with each other, they got married immediately. They have been married for 25 years. I'm not saying that you won't stay together, but it's unfair to both of you. I think it'll turn out beautifully in the end, like my friend.
Thank you guys. The story about your friend is very comforting.
Good luck op, you probably know this already but be very careful about how you sign up for the military. Before you sign up you can leverage yourself in all sorts of ways and make sure you get the benefits you want- the money for college / whatever.
Thanks!
Psh, med school with a 3.2? Maybe community college med school, or an internet diploma or something.
After freshman year, 3.2 is pretty good. I still have 3 more years to get it up. Thanks for your great words of encouragement.
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