Monday, January 16, 2006

Aw, Wiki makes me sound shallow


CajunExplosion
04:55:46 PM

24 comments:

Anonymous said...

I think it's awesome that this site got on Wikipedia. And to Heather - perhaps you ought to look into actually getting this site copyrighted.

Anonymous said...

Yeah, I'd say you're on to something.

sithgirl said...

Technically, the site is actually copyrighted. In the US, as long as little mark is on there, it's a recognized copyright. To make it completely official, I'd have to register the copyright.

In regards to both the trademark and the copyright, registering takes money to do. I'm... not willing to spend money on this site. Time yes, actual funds, no. And I'm completely against exploiting you guys, the users, in the form of ads on the site. I think that would be ridiculous and unfair.

So for now, we'll just let the things at the bottom stand, because even unregistered, the trademark and copyright can be legally enforced. I put up the notice, it's mine. And yours. Everything belongs to the website and its users, this isn't meant to be about any one person.

龙年 said...

As an extension to Heather's comment:

Copyrights, patents, and trademarks are interesting issues in terms of the federal government of the United States.

The two relevant ones, copyrights and trademarks, are fully enforceable in a judicial setting, regardless of whether they are registered with the "appropriate" federal institutions.

It takes vast amounts of time and hundreds of dollars to obtain a single registered recognition of copyright or trademark from the America government. While registration provides the most solid basis of protection, this simply isn't feasible for many individuals.

Therefore, US federal law and legislation dictates that the original owners and editors of works (especially of literature in any form) shall be legally entitled to the exclusive rights to their work beginning at the time of creation or publication, and continuing indefinitely.

So in conclusion, Tangst legally holds the tradmark rights to "Tangst" in reference to teenage angst and the Tangst community. Also, the copyright to the content provided by Tangst is protected by both the community and the authors of each of the works (even anonymous owners are legally legitimate in a court of law, per the nature of submission).

If you're interested in more information, check out these sites:

US Copyright Office
http://copyright.gov/

US Patent & Trademark Office
http://www.uspto.gov/

TintedFragipan said...

Unrelated question, what are the costs and necessities for registering a domain name? meaning, a hypothetical www.tangst.com

sithgirl said...

I honestly have no idea. Dan might know.

Where is that guy when you need him?

Anonymous said...

well dan i think has his own server. he might let you host it on his server for free, if you ask real nicely. but usually, i think prices run at around $12/year depending on the amount of bandwidth you want.

龙年 said...

I answered this to PChis personally, but as follows:

A simple redirect (www.tangst.com takes you to tangst.blogspot.com) can be had for 10usd for a year.

That's how PostSecret's domain, postsecret.com, works.

Its not free, though its cheap.

Sorry guys, there's a difference between owning a server, and having the ICANN (just google it) in my pocket. ;-)

I can host anybody's site for free, but acquiring a domain name is a different matter.

TintedFragipan said...

The redirect isn't a bad idea...

10 dollars a year is negligible...

Anonymous said...

oh em gee! Is "Box-Box" really Dan?

And oh, yeah, it's awesome that we're on Wiki. The sudden growth of this place is amazing.

TintedFragipan said...

On my computer it's "symbol symbol" not "box box." Someone doesn't have chinese script.

At least, I'm assuming it's chinese. Zaogao! *monotone*

龙年 said...

Yep, its Chinese. Microsoft Windows East Asian Language pack guys, install it today! Haha...

Ni hao wo peng you men!
*equally monotone*

Anyway, 10 dollars is fairly negligible. I'd be willing to chip in for that if its something we would want.

Anonymous said...

isn't it just questionmark-questionmark
clearly we have some font issues here...

TintedFragipan said...

We could both pay half, Ni hao wo peng you men (is that what those symbols mean? I like the "you men" part.)? Errr, pending it wouldn't require me to have a credit card. Talk to me about it?

Of course... I know nothing about what would need to be done and to whom it would need to be paid. Or how. But you're a trustworthy fellow. I would give you cash-dollars.

龙年 said...

I just talked to Heather about it a bit, we can figure it out after exams this week.

Ni hao wo peng you = Hello my friends :-)

And no, its not what the two characters in my Blogger name mean.

As to the font issue:

Look up Regional and Language Settings on your computer, or google it, and you should figure out how to install the Asian character support.

Or...don't. Its a fair amount of effort just to see a couple pretty characters.

TintedFragipan said...

Out of curiosity, do you know who I am?

sithgirl said...

Yeah, he recognized your e-mail on the "members" page inside Blogger. Don't you wish you were less of a public figure now?

Anonymous said...

wiki's as accurate as brittanica...

why are the characters "long niu" are u like.... a dragon cow?

TintedFragipan said...

Woah, people can see my email?

Also, no, I don't mind if Dragon Cow knows who I am. I was going to tell him anyway.

龙年 said...

Admins can see the list of registered contributors. No one else can though. Sorry if that disorients you man.

And dear anonymous, its "long nian," or directly, "dragon year," ostensibly meaning "year of the dragon." My Chinese sucks, so that's not completely correctly concocted, but it works.

Anonymous said...

Erm...Longnian, I don't think you can add 们 ('men' for those w/o the East Asian stuff (come on guys, even /I/ managed to figure it out and install it on my own, and I'm technology-retarted)) onto 朋友 ('pengyou'). It only works w/ 我(wo), 你(ni), and 他 (ta). Erm...at least that's what Feung Laoshi told me. Love your monotone, by the way. Not that this has anything to do with the conversation at hand. Please, continue.

Anonymous said...

oh, haha, it is long nian, iunno why i thought the second one was niu, i guess it looks similar tho

PChis said...

中国語がとても大嫌いですね。

龙年 said...

汉语比日语是非常好。;-)